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Disclaimer-type thing: I love Joss & co. I love the shows they've given us. I really don't have anything against them.

That having been said...

*headdesk*

I'm working on a Xander/Graham fic that's from Graham's pov, so I decided to look some stuff up about the special operations part of the military. (And can I just say how happy I am that a) my bookstore is a Barnes & Noble college affiliate and that b) we have some books on the special ops in trade books?)

So I found out that yes, there can be Marines in Lowell House (Riley says to Faith!Buffy in "Who Are You?" "So my fantasies don't tend to include a bunch of marines staring in at me." when she starts making out with him) and Riley and Graham can still be in the Army (Major Ellis tells Riley in "Into the Woods" "We're not government. We're Army." and Graham adds, "Just like you."). It's not uncommon for the different branches of Special Ops to work together on a mission.

Here's the *headdesk* part - Sam Finn, Riley's wife. The Special Forces only allow men. So that counts her out to begin with. The Special Forces are also *very* selective. Only 5% are even eligible to begin with, and even less get through the rigorous training that's needed.

So, if that's the case, then how the hell did she get into it with this story - "I went down to Central America with the Peace Corps. One night, my entire infirmary got slaughtered by... (shakes her head) I didn't know what they were. I got saved, quit the Corps, joined the squad. My first firefight, I met Riley. (smiling) We started talking, you know, first about tactics, missions, stuff like that. And then about you."

I get the fact that she was a plot point/device/whatever. But, seriously. If I can find this stuff out in about 5 minutes....


Feel free to point out the holes in this.

Date: 2004-10-28 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justhuman.livejournal.com
But, the book didn't tell you the official special ops stance about demons and those who know about them and are willing to fight

*shrugs*

Date: 2004-10-28 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spikesleman.livejournal.com
My only thought is that this is a different extra-secret sort of Secret Ops unit.

I mean, remember some of the things they were doing: capturing assorted demonic types and taking them to pieces. Literally. Way worse even than the abuses in Iraq.

This would be the kind of unit that "if you are discovered the Secretary will disavow all knowledge of your activities" to more or less quote the old "Mission Impossible" thingy.

I think they would make up their own rules a lot.

Date: 2004-10-29 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sam-gamgee.livejournal.com
Well, this is very true. But, then again, if they're gonna divulge all these other secrets, they gotta keep someting in the bag, right? :-P

Date: 2004-10-29 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sam-gamgee.livejournal.com
Oh, I know. But I just felt that from the way Joss & co were presenting it, they were trying to pull a "walks like a duck" type of thing while showing me a goose, 'tis all. :-D


Speaking of the old "Mission Impossible" - you know how the beginning was always "Your mission, should you choose to accept it,..."? Even though I never saw the show, I would have loved to see an episode where the lead would be like, "*Hell* no, I don't accept. I'm going on vacation!" and the whole episode is him on vacation in, like, the tropics, doing normal stuff. :-P

Date: 2004-10-30 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spikesleman.livejournal.com
Speaking of the old "Mission Impossible" - you know how the beginning was always "Your mission, should you choose to accept it,..."? Even though I never saw the show, I would have loved to see an episode where the lead would be like, "*Hell* no, I don't accept. I'm going on vacation!" and the whole episode is him on vacation in, like, the tropics, doing normal stuff. :-P

LOL

That should have been the last ep of the series, you know?

I'd have paid actual money to see that. Not only 'cause it would have been fun but because it would have scotched the dreadful "MI" movies with *twitch* Tom Cruise.

Date: 2004-10-30 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sam-gamgee.livejournal.com
That should have been the last ep of the series, you know? I'd have paid actual money to see that. Not only 'cause it would have been fun but because it would have scotched the dreadful "MI" movies with *twitch* Tom Cruise.

LOL. Yeah. I think a lot of people would've paid to see that.

I didn't think the first movie was all that horrible, but then it's been a long time since I've seen it. And I haven't seen the second one yet.

Date: 2004-10-31 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spikesleman.livejournal.com
Well, for me Tom Cruise = "Mary Ann ain't seein' that flick without a pistol pressed to her forehead" for the most part.

I watched a little of the first because one of the boys rented it.

blech

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